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Borac Snailer
Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 72 Location: zagreb/croatia
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SamClukkers Lowered
Joined: 23 Jun 2007 Posts: 774 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:58 pm Post subject: Re: 2cv AZ - 1959. -CROATIA |
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A Belgian built car in Croatia, interesting! Do you know in which country it has been deliverd originally? It's not a 2cv AZ, but AZL3. |
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Borac Snailer
Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 72 Location: zagreb/croatia
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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from J.Cats..... before 2 years...RIP
your car is a swiss car, the car in my photos is a belgian car.
Swiss cars had different lighting as swiss regulations were somewhat more
strickt then the belgian regulations.
Also, many cars got additional lighting during their life to either make
the car safer or keep up with local regulations.
> Hello,
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> A couple of additional questions if I may:
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> 1. Looking at the pictures on your web site I noticed that the white car
> does not have reflectors on the rear bumper. Velentino's rear bumper has
> them (you can see it on the photos).
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> 2. Cars shown on your web site do not have signal lights in the front
> fenders (wings). The car shown in the first photo I sent you does have
> them.
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> Do you have any comments on that? Could it be possible that there were
> different versions, or....?
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> Best regards, _________________ AK400-75/AZ-58/2cv-90
www.citroenclub.hr
-13.550 pictures
valentino.valjak@mzos.hr |
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Borac Snailer
Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 72 Location: zagreb/croatia
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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this is aAZ model...export version...
AZ
1959
190 0501 - 190 4700 (AZ + AZS)
190 4750 - 190 5000
190 6000 - 190 6520
190 6551 - 190 6928
190 1001 - 190 7005 (Export)
190 7051 - 190 7662 (Export)
190 8001 - 191 5282
_________________ AK400-75/AZ-58/2cv-90
www.citroenclub.hr
-13.550 pictures
valentino.valjak@mzos.hr |
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SamClukkers Lowered
Joined: 23 Jun 2007 Posts: 774 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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It's a 2cv AZL3, there's nothing such as a Belgian AZ Export. The '59 AZL3 has the third sidewindow, specific rear fenders, opening booth to remove the spare wheel, big dashboard, cardholders in front doors, aluminium bumpers / hubcaps / strips ... all the details like the car you're selling.
A picture of a strictly original Belgian built '59 AZ:
The only modification a Belgian AZ could have had for export to Switzerland are the indicators on the front wings, like happened to your AZL3. Good luck with selling this car.
Sam |
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Etienne Hoodrider
Joined: 25 May 2007 Posts: 2829
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Yannick Snailer
Joined: 15 Aug 2007 Posts: 71 Location: Mechelen, Belgium
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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I would like to add that Jeroen Cats has done an incredibly fantastic job concerning the research of the Belgian built 2cv's, but the information on his website dates back from the late nineties and is not always complete or correct. Nowadays people like Vincent Beyaert have finished and completed the work Jeroen started on the Belgian built 2cv's. There are now practically no more doubts about any serial numbers or models built here in Belgium whereas in the nineties nobody knew what an AZL3 or an AZS was. But of course Jeroen started it all and a lot of information you read on the internet and in books is based on the research he has done.
The Belgian factory started to build 2cv's in '52, in that year their serial numbers started with 120 for the A's and 201 for the AU's. They kept on counting to the year '59, so all the berlines had a serial number 190-**** and all the vans 901 -**** In 1960 they started using different numbers for each model. But a 2cv with number 190 -**** can either be an AZ, an AZS or an AZL3. And this car is an AZL3 for the reasons Sam already mentioned and of course Vincent's website makes it all very clear.
Yannick _________________ Belgian built '67 Dyane. |
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sivipas Snailer
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Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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carte grise seems to belong to an eighties model |
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Etienne Hoodrider
Joined: 25 May 2007 Posts: 2829
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Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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sivipas wrote: | carte grise seems to belong to an eighties model |
Sure AZ KA... A06/635... _________________ www.super2cv.com |
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dule Lowered
Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Posts: 590 Location: Zagreb, Croatia
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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sivipas wrote: | carte grise seems to belong to an eighties model |
that's because it doesn't belong to that car |
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Borac Snailer
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azurblade Dropped
Joined: 02 Jan 2008 Posts: 149 Location: Holland / IJlst
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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:13 am Post subject: |
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did you sell the car already or did you gonne restaurate them? _________________ 2cv rolls beter then a rolls! |
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Borac Snailer
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Bart Lowered
Joined: 17 Jun 2007 Posts: 783 Location: Södertälje
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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sell Do you mean sold? or still for sale? _________________ I like to play |
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